{"id":789,"date":"2022-02-26T11:01:31","date_gmt":"2022-02-26T16:01:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/?p=789"},"modified":"2022-02-26T11:01:31","modified_gmt":"2022-02-26T16:01:31","slug":"whats-in-a-name","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/2022\/02\/26\/whats-in-a-name\/","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s In A Name?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I often resist the urge to post articles about politics, despite the political overtones of this site&#8217;s name.\u00a0 But recently an issue has come up that has me both scratching my head as well as wondering how names change, and who decides?<\/p>\n<p>As I write this, Russia is invading Ukraine.\u00a0 I will leave the emotional and humanitarian aspects of this aside for the moment, since my topic is about a name:\u00a0 The name of Ukraine&#8217;s capital city, Kiev.\u00a0 Or, as many now would have it, Kyiv.<\/p>\n<p>Some quick study shows that Kiev (KEE-ev) was the common English spelling and pronunciation up until the Russians invaded, at which point the &#8220;formal&#8221; Ukrainian spelling and pronunciation of Kyiv (KEEV) was adopted by the western press.\u00a0 (n.b., the phonetic spellings are taken from <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a> or are my own when transliteration is impractical).<\/p>\n<p>Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union since 1922 as one of its &#8220;soviet socialist republics.&#8221; Ukrainian itself is an ethnic group, and traces its roots <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ukraine\">back <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ukraine\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to 32,000 B. C.<\/a> As with most of Europe, empires have come and gone, and Ukraine has been absorbed and integrated into many of them.\u00a0 Which brings us back to the name.<\/p>\n<p>Kiev is considered to be the Russian spelling and pronunciation, and for 70+ years was the accepted form.\u00a0 In 1991, following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine declared its independence.\u00a0 Western usage of the name continued, although Ukrainians quickly adopted their &#8220;proper&#8221; name, and in <a href=\"https:\/\/mfa.gov.ua\/en\/news-feeds\/foreign-offices-news\/73205-rada-ssha-z-geografichnih-nazv-uhvalila-perejmenuvannya-stolici-ukrajini-na-kyiv\">2019 petitioned the United States Board on Geographic Names and the International Air Transport Association (IATA) to do the same<\/a>.\u00a0 Officially, on maps and other cartographic instruments, Kyiv is now the official name and spelling.<\/p>\n<p>So the question I have is this:\u00a0 Why does the media, in its &#8220;hive mind,&#8221; choose to make the distinction now?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">(Side note:\u00a0 As a youth, and after college, I knew the name of the Chinese capital as Peking.\u00a0 In 1979, the Wade-Giles system for the romanization of written Chinese moved from Cantonese to Mandarin, and thus Peking became Beijing &#8211; technically a restoration of the name and not a change.\u00a0 This was my first exposure to how different cultures apply their conventions to others).<\/p>\n<p>Tossing aside the fact that Kyiv is technically accurate, why does the media now uniformly decide to use it?\u00a0 There was no such focus prior to the Russian invasion.<\/p>\n<p>Which got me to thinking:\u00a0 If western media wants to be accurate, why do they not apply the same standard to other capitals?\u00a0 A few immediate examples I can think of, and their native (albeit phonetic) pronunciations) are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Moscow (Moskva)<\/li>\n<li>Paris (Paree)<\/li>\n<li>Munich (Muenchen)<\/li>\n<li>Budapest (Budapesht)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And one of my favorites:\u00a0 Copenhagen.\u00a0 The capital of Denmark is pronounced &#8220;Koobenhavn.&#8221; English speakers typically pronounce it &#8220;Copen-h\u0101gen.&#8221;\u00a0 Some, who wish to appear worldly and effete pronounce it &#8220;Copen-hoggen&#8221; without knowing that to do is an affront to the natives.\u00a0 Most Danes are too polite to mention it, but the Germanic pronunciation still carries with it the resentment of the German treatment of the Danes during WWII!<\/p>\n<p>And how about Bangkok?\u00a0 In Thai, the official name of the capital is Krung Thep Maha Nakon, or colloquially as Krung Thep.\u00a0 According to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bangkok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Officially, the town was known as\u00a0<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><i lang=\"th-Latn\">Thonburi Si Mahasamut<\/i><\/span>\u00a0(<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><span lang=\"th\">\u0e18\u0e19\u0e1a\u0e38\u0e23\u0e35\u0e28\u0e23\u0e35\u0e21\u0e2b\u0e32\u0e2a\u0e21\u0e38\u0e17\u0e23<\/span><\/span>, from\u00a0<a title=\"Pali\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pali\">Pali<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a title=\"Sanskrit\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sanskrit\">Sanskrit<\/a>, literally &#8216;city of treasures gracing the ocean&#8217;) or\u00a0<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><i lang=\"th-Latn\">Thonburi<\/i><\/span>, according to the\u00a0<i><a class=\"mw-redirect\" title=\"Ayutthaya Chronicles\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ayutthaya_Chronicles\">Ayutthaya Chronicles<\/a><\/i>.<sup id=\"cite_ref-Wang_Derm-Thonburi_19-0\" class=\"reference\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bangkok#cite_note-Wang_Derm-Thonburi-19\">[15]<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0<i>Bangkok<\/i>\u00a0was likely a colloquial name, albeit one widely adopted by foreign visitors, who continued to use it to refer to the city even after the new capital&#8217;s establishment.<\/p>\n<p>When King Rama I established his new capital on the river&#8217;s eastern bank, the city inherited Ayutthaya&#8217;s ceremonial name, of which there were many variants, including\u00a0<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><i lang=\"th-Latn\">Krung Thep Thawarawadi Si Ayutthaya<\/i><\/span>\u00a0(<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><span lang=\"th\">\u0e01\u0e23\u0e38\u0e07\u0e40\u0e17\u0e1e\u0e17\u0e27\u0e32\u0e23\u0e27\u0e14\u0e35\u0e28\u0e23\u0e35\u0e2d\u0e22\u0e38\u0e18\u0e22\u0e32<\/span><\/span>) and\u00a0<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><i lang=\"th-Latn\">Krung Thep Maha Nakhon Si Ayutthaya<\/i><\/span>\u00a0(<span title=\"Thai-language text\"><span lang=\"th\">\u0e01\u0e23\u0e38\u0e07\u0e40\u0e17\u0e1e\u0e21\u0e2b\u0e32\u0e19\u0e04\u0e23\u0e28\u0e23\u0e35\u0e2d\u0e22\u0e38\u0e18\u0e22\u0e32<\/span><\/span>).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As one who has traveled extensively, and who has visited many of the cities listed above, it strikes me as humorous (and perhaps even disingenuous) how the media all of a sudden &#8220;discovers&#8221; a new name for a place, and then pretend to be intellectually and snobbishly superior by using it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I often resist the urge to post articles about politics, despite the political overtones of this site&#8217;s name.\u00a0 But recently an issue has come up that has me both scratching my head as well as wondering how names change, and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/2022\/02\/26\/whats-in-a-name\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-789","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/789","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=789"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/789\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":796,"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/789\/revisions\/796"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=789"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=789"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mfna.org\/rfo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=789"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}